I agree that education and intelligent most definitely do not go hand in hand. I knew someone that had a 4 year degree in actuarial science and computer science and wouldn't use it. The person had absolutely no common sense. Though extremely intelligent, he worked in gas stations. I've also known people with no college education whatsoever and were some of the most intelligent people I've ever talked to. I don't look for education level when searching. When I search. I look for articulation in their profile and proper use of grammar mostly. Lots of education doesn't necessarily mean someone is intelligent. My dad graduated from high school and had no college and can debate with the best. One of the most intelligent people I know.
Sorry I need a really intelligent person or there is nothing there for me. This would include emotional intelligence & humorous intellgience also. For me the relationship starts in my brain and moves downward. Also once the flames recede you'd better have something interesting to say...sorry this is a dealbreaker for me.
In general people with advanced schooling are financially, emotionally, and physically in a better place. Statistics will back this up again and again.
i think the stats are something like, for every 10 IQ points more than average a woman is 5 times less likely to marry, while men in the similar position are 5 times more likely to marry, or something... Smart women get the short end of the stick either way.
I am working on my 2nd Masters (was doing a PhD @ one point but that is now on the back burner) & can tell you men (at least fellow grad students) are often intimidated by women in academia. So not only am I fat, I have brains; no wonder I'm still single! Lol! Anyways, to be serious, there was a recent study that found well educated men in executive positions will have sex with both women who are highly educated & not so highly educated, but are more likely to marry a woman whose level of education was below his. So great; I can be screwed but am not worthy of "I do". Maybe my grandmother is right: she just needs to send me back to Portugal to find someone...
this is something i continually find conflict in...
I tend to look for someone with at least some college, even though I myself dropped out of highschool in grade 11... But then i've dated people who had some college but were not as smart as myself and could not keep up in debates on *any* topic, and had no motivation. Ive met people who are smart, but as mentioned, had NO common sense or logic and drive me crazy. I've met people who are not as smart but are funny and creative and motivated and determined. I have a classmate in uni who is now engaged to a guy who works as a short order cook - she says she knows shes better educated and will have a better job, but that hes smart and funny and does do his best to keep up and reads up on things if he's interested, and for that she loves him.
I think, also, i would not be able to date someone too much smarter than myself... mostly because i would feel like i was cheating them. i mean, if i cant date someone lesser than myself, why could they? And with the interest in different topics.. I'm working on my zoology degree, but how many people really care about the politics behind conservation or the ethics of animal testing on an objective level? How NOT interested am i in how to optimise my harddrive by inserting X and Y into Z? Theres conflict there, mostly because while im smart im not educated or interested in those subjects and therefore cannot have a stimulating conversation about it.
I would be happy to have someone who was near enough to my own intelligence to keep pace with a debate, interested, funny and motivated to be the best they can be, even if they were not educated to my level (3rd year bachelors of science), much like my friend the soon-to-be mrs. short order cook. Because, as theo and others pointed out, a degree doesnt always mean better.
Education is important to a point, like Rain said Intelligence and Education sometimes dont go hand in hand ... for eg, If I met a guy who only went to year 10 had a job and was funny and intelligent then that would be suffice, as apposed to someone who was highly educated and had no commonsense (I have met people like that) and no personality ... I think if someone is street smart as well thats a bonus.
I dont read excessively ... I only went to highest level of high school (year 12) , I have done a course here and there, so I suppose to many I am probably not too intelligent or "educated" . I could easily say that a lot of my learning has come from the book of life ...
I definitely want to meet someone that has a clue, but it seems alot of the 'highly educated' men I have met seem to want to be superior. I have noticed even in these forums that the more intellectual people tend to put down those who are not as intelligent as they are. Sooo... if I had my choice... I'd rather have a man that loved me for me and had a blue collar job than to be with a man who constantly worked to prove how much smarter he was than me... I have enough self esteem issues without adding the worry of 'am I smart enough'.
Hmmm education versus intelligence, how about both? I considered my Father to be a very intelligent man. He read voraciously and spoke intelligently on politics, religion, science and sports. :) My Father had a grade four education as his family was very poor and he had to work to support them. I have known University Professors that seemed base in all ways.
Education itself can be deceiving. What if someone is brilliant in quantum physics or neurology, I can't speak to them about those things and I don't have much interest in doing so. However, being passionate about something meaningful is important to me. I respect people that read books, and that seek knowledge.
I think that the more education one receives they are more likely to find rewarding work. You may be brilliant but who wants to work as a security guard for the rest of their life? Some professions allow one to hone their knowledge others to thwart it.
All in all, intelligence and passion are must haves with me.
Education and intellingence are of paramount importance to me. I only have a 4 year degree, but read 2-3 books per month and always looking to learn something new, for instance I am Italian, but still don't speak it fluently so I am taking advanced classes at a local college. Would love to meet somone with a higher education level and or intelligence than me.
I too scan for education level, though it isn't a defining trait as I have dated others who were intelligent yet had no degree. But I find nothing more attractive then someone who can carry on an intelligent conversation, debate without being obnoxious and understands witty sarcasm as an art form -- all which require a certain amount of intellect.
I have to admit that I also look at the education line Theo.. While a degree isn't a deal breaker, it is a consideration.... mostly because I've found by experience I tend to have more in common and more intense conversations with someone who also has a degree.
That being said, if I met someone who I totally clicked with, as long as we had a connection, the education isn't as important.
Education level is something I look at, to be sure, but my decision doesn't hinge on it. If someone has a well written profile to boot, then it's worth contacting them. If their e-mails are intelligent, I'll keep up the conversation. Excessive typos drive me crazy though, and NOT in a good way!
Well, that's a toughie, for all the reasons you mentioned. When I was still searching, I had the tendency to pay more attention to the spelling, etc in theprofile as my first clue.
I also found that when I accepted a date from someone who did not share the same intellectual interests as me (he wasn't stupid, mind you. Just didn't get when I'd make literary references in my jokes, didn't follow current events, etc) that I ended up feeling very superior to him, like I was doing him a huge favour to even be gracing him with my august presence. And I really didn;t like that feeling.
So to answe your question, I know all to well how education can get de-railed. The cost of post secondary schooling can be astronomical, among other things. So education itself I am not too concerned with. But there does have to be a definite compatability on the mind level.