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Posted on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 21:22

Dreams, can become real. Fantasies, would you make them real? Is a dream a goal? Is a fantasy only to dream about? Hummmmmm tell me which is male which is female or does it matter? Nisi32132


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Posted on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 15:43

Okay Amy, now that I had to look up polyglot what I get out of this is that a dream or a fantasy can be very different as multilingual implies. They can be as different as night and day. For me the deeper meaning of either is what I find enticing. I try to bridge my dreams with my daily reality. I never tried to bridge a fantasy. I'm not sure I ever had a fantasy to bridge anyway. The multi-dimensional aspect of dreams might contrast "polyglotism". For instance, one dream I have remembered over the years is this one. I'm young it felt like a teenager, I was running and carefree in a lovely park setting. Trees, grass, birds chirping, blue sky and the sun shining but I did not feel the warmth on my skin. Suddenly I'm running because a gator was chasing me. I was not in the park while the gator was chasing me, I was in a dreary swampy place. There there was a line, diagonal down the middle of a "scene" and I crossed past that line. Suddenly back in the park, the gator was gone. I was safe and never looked back. There are so many images in that dream and many many ways to interpret it brining it into my life. In fact each decade I can tell you it has a different meaning to me. It's not recurring but for some reason I remember it from time to time. Nisi Re: SweetCicely write: The point is to build connections through dialogue and the construction of a common if polyglot definition of terms that are important to the community. So there. NYAH! Amy


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Posted on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 04:59

The point is to build connections through dialogue and the construction of a common if polyglot definition of terms that are important to the community. So there. NYAH! Amy


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Posted on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 18:00

Like Amy I had to ponder this one before I could respond. To me dreams (at least dreams of the conscious mind) are something that you can turn into reality if you want them bad enough. They may be a bit hard to reach but they are reachable. A fantasy is make-believe. Pretend. Something that is not and can never be a reality no matter how bad you want it. It may even be something you like to think about but would not WANT in reality. But like some others have said, I don't think either is gender-based. I know I have fantasies and I know I have dreams. Sometimes its difficult to tell the difference for me, but in the end I usually manage it.

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Posted on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 16:45

Ni, I've been thinking about this, kicking it around a bit and haven't come to any conclusions. I value semantics; the shading of a particular word choice is often telling for me, but Dreams and Fantasies? The only distinction I make (and I don't see that it's all that important) is that Dreams come unbidden, while Fantasies are something we construct. I suppose a Dream can become a Fantasy . . . sort of a life cycle thing? In any case, neither one seems more concrete than the other, nor do they have any sense of gender-shading for me. I really don't use the words much. I have hopes to visit Mongolia someday, but I do not call it a dream or a fantasy. It is a desire that I _hope_ to realize. I can't think why I veer away from these 2 words . . . Amy


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Posted on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 20:51

Fantasy is thinking you have found a humongous chocolate bar and eat it,reality is finding your pillow gone.Dreaming is how good a Chocolate Cream pie would be.reality would be knowing that there is not one in the fridge.but knowing where the cat keys are!


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Posted on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 03:56

Hi Retski, Super smile by the way! You're putting dreams and fantasy's into two separate worlds. One is a fantasy that you'd never want in your reality but totally enjoy while you create it in your mind. Are you someone else in your fantasy? Are you role playing? The other is a dream, something you want in your reality, things you can have and will have depending on how determined you are about getting what you dream about. Tell me what you dreaming. My question is why are they so different? If you enjoy your fantasy because you create it why would you not be curious to attempt it bring it into your life? Is it really really "bad"? Nothing wrong with having that fantasy, I bet most of us have this sort of fantasy. Fantasies can also be dreams or aspirations for ourselves. Or are we just dealing with semantics here? My take on it, I have dreams many of them I've accomplished with a few remaining out there. Fantasies, I don't have any. As a realist I think I tend to be a dreamer for things attainable. Nisi32132 retski write: "Dreams of reality",ever hear this famous saying?Dreams are what we want to feel,see,touch,taste,and achieve in are forever searching lives,yes they're our goals and yet accomplishments.Fantasies,is where one just lets the mind simply play within ourselves,your own euphoria as it be.Our own thoughts of anything we want to do,say ,we can act out in our minds,but yet,we also keep them secret,even from our friends,family,have fun & enjoy both of them as we need them


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Posted on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 03:42

Tim, Yes be careful what you wish for you just might get it is something that I know works. I've experienced it in my life. Putting energy out there tends to bring that to you. Why? because you are now looking for that situation. Do you "make" it happen? In a way I think we might be a major catalyst in making this situation happen because we've given it energy and we are keenly aware of what we want. Yup, Tim, some wishes are not good. Self full filling prophecy? Hummmmm What do you think? Nat aka Nisi32132


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Posted on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 02:25

I tend to dream about what I think I can actually attain. I might fantasize about the billionaire husband with the platinum credit card and emerald green extended-cab pick up truck (yes, for REAL...), but I know that it's just that: fantasy. I think dreams are visions of what we would like to attain, gain, reach, do, be or become in life, but will have to work EXCEPTIONALLY hard to realize it. Dreams are sometimes lost that way. That's where fantasy and dreams become intertwined: when a dream is so hard to realize that it's just easier to think it's a fantasy.


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